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RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/4/2004 8:34:44 AM   
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Can you post the address and letter you sent. Maybe we can follow your lead.

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RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/4/2004 8:36:39 AM   
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Consumer affairs at CC..

Circuit City Stores, Inc.
Attention: Consumer Affairs
2040 Thalbro Street
Richmond, VA 23230
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/5/2004 4:36:18 AM   
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I'm going to put in a report at www.fraud.org. If several of us do the same, it might help.

If you post that letter (sans personal info, of course) maybe it would be helpful to other that would like to send one.

< Message edited by zvsmedia -- 2/5/2004 4:45:26 AM >
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/5/2004 8:14:47 AM   
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I filed a complaint with Fraud.org.

We'll see where this goes. It isn't even about the 40 dollars anymore. It is about customer service and standing behind your policies and offers. Error or not.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/5/2004 8:48:49 AM   
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I just posted a complaint on fraud.org too.

We need to file a complaint on www.bbb.com also...

< Message edited by VG -- 2/5/2004 8:55:55 AM >
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/5/2004 11:54:46 AM   
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Filed with the BBB as well.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/5/2004 11:56:27 AM   
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This is the draft of what I sent off to Circuit city.

This letter is in regards to a rebate offer on one of your products just before Christmas 2003. The offer was to buy a Western Digital 120G Hard Drive (HD1200JR) for $139.99 and receive the following three rebates: YB270 for $40, YB272 for $30, and YB273 for $40. All of these rebates were printed from the Circuitcityrebates.young-america.com website on Dec 22 of 2003. The purchase date had to be no later than Dec. 24th, 2003. The Item was ordered online VIA Ticket # 441701382729 on Dec. 22nd, 2003 and pick up at your Southfield, MI Store #3610. All rebates were submitted and received by Circuit City on Jan 12th, 2004. YB270 and YB272 have been approved but YB273 was not. The reason stated was that the item was not purchased in the offered dates for this rebate. I called the rebate line at 1-888-213-9761 and once I explained my situation, the woman said that she was aware of this issue and it was being directed to Corporate. I called corporate on Jan 29th, 2004 at 1800-251-2665 and opted out for a Customer Service Rep. Heather advised that this offer was only valid on Dec 11, 12 of 2003 and there was a mistake with the Rebate YB273 still being available after that date. Diane stated the rebate would not be honored. I went back to my records and did some research and found that the offer was said to expire on Dec 24th, 2003. I checked my purchase dates, the rebate forms, and the post mark dates to make sure I didn’t miss any of them. Rebate Form YB273 does not list the required purchase dates, none of your rebate forms do, However. I printed them all on the same date of Dec. 22, 2003. So, it was still listed on the circuitcityrebates.young-america.com website. I called back to Corporate on Jan. 30th, 2004 and spoke with Diane. Diane sadi there was a memo that was sent out VIA email regarding this issue. She read it as we were on the phone an confirmed the same conversation I had with Heather the previous day, that in fact, the rebate SHOULD have been taken down and was not a valid offer. I asked to speak to a Manager since to me this becomes an error on behalf of Circuit City/Young America, not the consumer. Diane tried to transfer me but she came back and said that all the managers were busy and she would take my number and have them call me back within 24 hours. I received no call back. Jan. 31st 2004 I called and spoke with Gwen and went over the same information as the previous two calls and I just asked her to speak to a manager again. She said she could see that I was due to receive a call back and I should just wait. I requested that she resubmit my request for a call back and confirmed my call back number. I never did receive a call back on Feb. 1st either. I called Corporate back on Feb 3rd and explained the issue once again and was finally transferred to a manager, Diane Beverly, at Ext 6780. She apologized and explained the same scenario that Young America did not take the rebate down as it should have. The rebate YB273 will not be honored and there was no more she could do. I tried to explain that if this was an error on Young America’s part, it would seem that it should be dealt with them not the consumers who shop at your stores. All she would do is apologize. I requested to escalate another level up over her and she stated, “ I am the highest”. That was the end of the call.
I have shopped quite a bit at Circuit City due to the atmosphere and customer service compared to other stores. I have purchased computers, Large TV’s and TV stands, DVD players, etc. I am utterly disappointed on how this issue is being handled due to an error from your store/affiliates. I even requested a compromise from Diane Beverly for a Gift Card. “No Sir” was the response I received. As a consumer with many choices to buy the same products, I find this very uncaring and a bit of bad customer service. As an investor in Stocks and such, I know Circuit City can’t afford to lose many customers. Which, In all honesty, if why I have continued to shop there. I prefer Circuit City to the “other” store. I would like a reasonable resolution to this issue. I am very frustrated that 1. An error regarding a rebate is not being honored although it was an error on your part. 2. I did not receive a call back as promised. 3. I did not receive a call back on the second request for such either. 4. When I even suggested a compromise, there was none.
I will be happy to shop elsewhere if this is how Circuit City values it’s customers. I look forward to a response at your earliest convenience. If no reasonable conclusion can come of this issue. I will file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau for not honoring an offer than was available in error or not constitutes fraud.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/5/2004 4:01:12 PM   
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I've been through the same thing everyone else has. Spoke with Diane who just repeated "we won't honor the rebate" without even considering the information I was presenting her. I have hard copies of all rebates including the conformation emails generated by the CC eRebate system for YB272 and 273. I've been in similar situations before and the BBB is an ineffective option, they are at most mediators and CC will probably not flinch from a complaint. I think the only option that will produce any result is to take them to small claims court. This is the route I will be taking shortly and although I am not a lawyer I don't see where they have a leg to stand on in not honoring this rebate. The money has become a secondary issue to the poor manner in which they have handled this.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/6/2004 9:41:05 AM   
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great job with the letter chesney09!!!
the claims court sounds like a good idea as I believe that it would be the only place where someone would be willing to hear our side of the story too... how to do this? I don't know!!!
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/6/2004 9:48:12 AM   
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I am not sure either.. Do you file it here? Or do you have to file it in VA where CC Corp is?
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/6/2004 12:28:34 PM   
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Filing in small claims court is easy, because they did buisness with you in your state you can file at your local courthouse with no problem. I happen to live 5 min from their corporate HQ so I'm sure it won't be a big deal for them to throw a corporate lawyer at my case, but that's fine with me. At best I will have a sympathetic judge who will understand, and at worst they had to send a $200/hr. lawyer to fight a $40 rebate.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/6/2004 1:28:10 PM   
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Very interesting - they're readily admitting that a mistake was made - if not by them, by someone they've contracted (as good as by them). I bet that small claims suit is a slam dunk!

I really hate to "lawyer up" but as widespread as that deal was there could be hundreds of people (maybe more?) affected by this. I wonder if there's a class-action suit in this? I don't want to go there, but this business of offering rebates then not paying them has got to stop. I have a stack of them due from OfficeMax - wonder if I'll see a dime...

(Kudos to Staples BTW - Black Friday rebates have been pouring in lately!)

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RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/6/2004 3:22:27 PM   
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I, too, am waiting for Office Max rebates. I have gotten my rebates from other western digital HD purchases.
I am waiting on many others from Black Friday.
I think I am going to wait on a response from Corporate Consumer Affairs before I go after legal action.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/8/2004 6:42:23 PM   
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placed my order on 12/24/03

YB270 ($40) - almost coming
YB272 ($30) - came
YB273 ($40) - DENIED
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/9/2004 3:41:57 PM   
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Yep, Got my checks over the weekend....MINUS ONE!

I guess I will just never shop CC again! Not my Loss! There is ALWAYS a BEST BUY next door and they match prices or beat them anyways.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/10/2004 12:35:17 PM   
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Hello everyone,
I received my denial letter in the mail a few days ago and like everyone else called and complained. The first 800 number I called was already well aware of the issue and basically said we cant do anything for you call the corp number. So I called them and basically the guy I spoke with said there is no way you will get your 40$ it was because of the a techbargain websites that they are doing this. I kept telling him that it was not my fault that they had a link to a rebate that of course did not show when you had to purchase the item and that I have email confirmation showing that I had clicked on all three rebates associated with the item. I have never ran into this sort of problem doing rebates and I have done rebates for many years. At least when dell made a mistake a few months ago they honored it for the people who ordered it before they caught it. CC is just turning there back on someones mistake and not owning up to the fact that it was on there website with what looked to be a valid claim. The man I spoke to at cc corp said we could go back and forth all day but the company made a decision and it wont be overturned, what a lame response to a company that prides on customer satisfaction! anyone finds any thing out please post. thanks
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/10/2004 2:15:47 PM   
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I would really follow up on it with a letter to consumer affairs, fraud.org, Better Business, etc. If enough people take the energy to make this an issue, someone of importance will take notice and we may get what is due.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/10/2004 5:01:21 PM   
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I filed a complaint with the FTC and this was the response I got:

quote:

Thank you for your correspondence to the Federal Trade Commission regarding rebates offered by companies. Rebate offers and coupons are, among other things, a form of price competition. While some manufacturers or sellers may conclude that simple price discounts will attract customers, others may believe that a rebate or coupon program will be a more effective means of advertising substantial savings to consumers. In general, no statute enforced by the Commission addresses the decision to adopt a rebate or coupon program. Thus, promoters of rebate or coupon plans use their independent business judgment in offering such plans to distributors or to the public. However, if a company decides to offer a rebate or coupon plan, it must fully disclose the material terms and conditions of the offer and must provide the promised rebate. If a company systematically fails to do so, it may be engaging in deceptive or unfair practices in violation of Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act.
Finally, you may wish to raise your concerns with the manufacturers or companies who offer rebates or coupons, since many companies appreciate comments from the public about their products and how they are marketed. You should also note that many companies hire independent companies to administer their rebate or coupon programs and are eager to hear about their performance.

The Federal Trade Commission acts in the public interest to stop business practices that violate the laws it enforces. Letters from consumers and businesses are very important to the work of the Commission. They are often the first indication of a problem in the marketplace and may provide the initial evidence to begin an investigation. The Commission does not resolve individual complaints. The Commission does, however, act when it sees a pattern of possible violations developing. The decision to open up an investigative action depends on how widespread the practice is, how many consumers are hurt, how much harm is done, and how much evidence we have. We must also determine how much staff time and effort we can put into each case, and we must concentrate on the most urgent.

We appreciate your taking the time to write. We hope the above information has been useful to your situation.


Sincerely yours,


Consumer Response Center


I still think small claims court is the way to go for results on this one, and will be filing once my schedule opens up a bit.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/11/2004 5:48:38 AM   
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I would think that if you win (which I can't see you losing - worst case would be a default judgement where CC is too cheap to send a lawyer) that would open the door for the rest of us.

Still, based on the FTC info if enough of us go to fraud.org and send in a complaint the FTC might take notice (I think fraud.org forwards complaints to FTC and other organizations so it's one-stop shopping).

As blatant as this is, you have to wonder if someone from CC might have posted this deal originally to discredit the bargain sites. It sounds pretty far-fetched, but it would be effective if people roll over and accept the denied rebates.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/13/2004 2:18:07 AM   
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I received confirmation of the registered letter to CC today. We'll see where that goes.
I also received a response from the BBB. They stated that the info has been sent to CC and they have 30 days to respond. If they do not within the 30, fill out the attached form. Blah blah blah. At least the ball is rolling.... Where? I have not a clue. I just refuse to go down without a fight.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/14/2004 9:55:56 AM   
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I wonder what a good way would be to get an idea of how many people are affected by this? I'd have to think there'd be a good chance of getting some results if we can act en masse...
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/17/2004 9:39:10 AM   
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Ok I am in the same boat as everyone else.
2 rebates honored and the 3rd (YB273) is hung in process and will be rejected becasue I bought it on 12/12 and not 12/10 - 12/11. I have a form in hand that states it was for 12/10-12/24.

I am currently on hold with CC Corp. I bet I get Diane too.

Nope I got Andy Faison at extension 3243. He says he is the highest too. HUH??? His manager does not take phone calls, but he was happy to give me the Prez's addy, e-mauil and fax #.

They are as such

E-mail

chief_executive@circuitcity.com

Fax # 804-342-6482

Address:

W. Alan McCollough
Cahirman, President, CEO
Circuit City Stores
9950 Mayland Dr
Richmond VA 23233

I used to work in several call centers and they are pulling standard stonewall practices. The prez will never see these letters/faxes/e-mails. They go to some flunky who is probably in the chair next to Andy and Diane. They will auto reply with "We will not honor becasue we state on our site that we are not accountable for errors." I told andy maybe I should stamp that on the checks I send to pay my bills and then let them bounce........I am going to go to my local store and see what they will do before I bang my head more on this. Why should I be penalized becasue they screwed up???? They know they really hosed this one and are trying to get out of bucking up and paying what is due.

Feel free to barrage the e-mail and fax with complaints though. If everyone floods their e-mail box with complaint letters, they might get the picture as to how many customers the will loose...

In my town they are putting in a best buy across the street from the CC store. I think that might give me some leverage on them.

Ronald
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/19/2004 11:20:45 AM   
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Good NEWS

As I said I would I went to my local CC to complain. I stated that the rebate company refused to pay because they said the form was a mistake. The girl at the desk called the manager and was told what to do.

They went in and did a price adjustment on the origional ticket where I bought it for $40 and refunded the $40 PLUS tax on it (Total $43) to my credit card. I was done in less than 10 minutes and did not get any arguements.

Seems like the local store still know what customer service is...

I am watching for the refund on my card, but They gave me a receipt stating that they refunded it. So it would be true fraud at this point to not refund it.

Everyone may give this a try. In my experience managers are too busy and/or understanding to argue.

THX

Ronald
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/26/2004 5:23:17 PM   
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Does anyone have a copy of YB273 with the offer dates printed on it? The confirmation email has a link to the original which is of course down now. If anyone has a copy from when this was up I wold really appreciate it. Thanks.
 
RE: Circuit City 120 gig HD1200JR Rebates. Need 3rd one - 2/27/2004 11:28:06 AM   
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Yes, that would be great - the "print me" portion of the web rebate form didn't have the terms on it so I could use that as well...

TIA!
 
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